I was wondering how long it would take for that to be brought up.
The American Indians own this land long before we got here. some of it was sold to us and most was taken by force. the Indians own this land and have a right to reclaim it if they could. however they were defeated by a much more advanced race at the time. The Israelis are the rightful owners of their land. much like the Indians are of this land. the difference is the Israelis have the power to hold and reclaim their land. the Indians do not.
the Arabs should be thankful Israel has not reclaimed all the land that is rightfully theirs. which include parts of Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon and Egypt.

__________________

ionists claim that Jews have the right to possess all land between the Nile and the Euphrates because (they say) this land was given to them by some entity they call "YHWH" as claimed in the Old Testament (Genesis 15:18). But this would not be the first time that documents written by humans were used to justify land grabs. (And this "YHWH" appears, from accounts in the Old Testament, to be [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. , vain, jealous, given to fits of rage and directing his followers to massacre civilian populations — an entity who, if he existed, would be quite unworthy of the devotion of anyone with a sense of justice and morality.) Zionists also lay claim to Palestine because this was territory controlled by two Jewish mini-states, Judah and Samaria, until their destruction by the Romans in the 1st C. CE. To which may be replied: If Zionist claims to a Jewish "homeland" in Palestine, based on Jewish occupation of that area 2000 years ago, are accepted as valid then the claims of North American Indians to their former homeland (all of the United States) and the claims of Australian Aborigines to their former homeland (all of Australia) should also be accepted as valid, and those homelands returned. Not to mention the descendants of the inhabitants of countless mini-states which have risen and fallen over the course of thousands of years of human history. Jews have no more rights than anyone else.



I must wonder if you are even reading any of this.
rx

__________________
"Question authority, ALWAYS question authority" Frank Bevans

It all comes down to I believe the word of god and you do not.
I say this... if the Towel heads want some...then they can go get some! the Israelites put them in their place. Israel should in fact take the rest of the Palestine land and send the Camel jockeys packing. Israel became a state. the Arabs invaded and got their azz whipped and they been crying ever since.

__________________

I not suppose to be friends here

as mentioned before , europians killed about 1 Billion Native amaricans to occupy their lands

And the same in Australia

but beleive me Muslims are not Indians
and Israeli wont got a piece of rest as long as they are in palestine until "Armageddon"

which they knew well

they didnt enter the holly land when straight razor ask them to
then God punished them by deprive them of entering it 40 years straying in earth

so they came again to conquer it nowadays

which we know they would in our holy Quran
and also that we gonna drive them out of it

It is only a matter of time

I'll not discuss this any further with you until you at least take the time to do at least some degree of research of the subject at hand.

Frankly, having read and respected your opinions of other matters I am disappointed in your near total lack of information, open mindedness, and clear sightedness about this issue.
As a regular churchgoer I find it pretentious of you to claim that I am a non believer in the word of God.

As a final note- the Israelites have been extinct for over 2000 years. "Israelis" populate the state of Israel. READ SOME DAMNED BOOKS...
rx

__________________
"Question authority, ALWAYS question authority" Frank Bevans

“The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Zionists base their territorial demands, endured for only about 73 years...Then it fell apart...[Even] if we allow independence to the entire life of the ancient Jewish kingdoms, from David’s conquest of Canaan in 1000 B.C. to the wiping out of Judah in 586 B.C., we arrive at [only] a 414 year Jewish rule.” Illene Beatty, “Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan.”

“Recent archeological digs have provided evidence that Jerusalem was a big and fortified city already in 1800 BCE...Findings show that the sophisticated water system heretofor attributed to the conquering Israelites pre-dated them by eight centuries and was even more sophisticated than imagined...Dr. Ronny Reich, who directed the excavation along with Eli Shuikrun, said the entire system was built as a single complex by Canaanites in the Middle Bronze Period, around 1800 BCE.” The Jewish Bulletin, July 31st, 1998.


“Palestine became a predominately Arab and Islamic country by the end of the seventh century. Almost immediately thereafter its boundaries and its characteristics — including its name in Arabic, Filastin — became known to the entire Islamic world, as much for its fertility and beauty as for its religious significance...In 1516, Palestine became a province of the Ottoman Empire, but this made it no less fertile, no less Arab or Islamic...Sixty percent of the population was in agriculture; the balance was divided between townspeople and a relatively small nomadic group. All these people believed themselves to belong in a land called Palestine, despite their feelings that they were also members of a large Arab nation...Despite the steady arrival in Palestine of Jewish colonists after 1882, it is important to realize that not until the few weeks immediately preceding the establishment of Israel in the spring of 1948 was there ever anything other than a huge Arab majority. For example, the Jewish population in 1931 was 174,606 against a total of 1,033,314.” Edward Said, “The Question of Palestine.”

I hope this helps to clear up some of the confusion that you seem to be having.
rx

__________________
"Question authority, ALWAYS question authority" Frank Bevans

Rex as a churchgoer then you SHOULD know that gods word is final in all matters. you seem to take mans word over gods and thats your choice. however i put little faith in allot of science since most of it is based on theory and not fact. they continue to use Carbon dating to tell us how old things are even though it has been proved to be highly inaccurate time and time again
I read lots of damned books and i place the Bible above all others!

__________________

The Israelis are there to stay!
every time the Arabs invade they get their azz kicked. how will the Muslims reclaim Palestine? Terrorist acts of bombing and launching Rockets across the border won't do it. it hasn't worked in 60 years and it's not going to work now.

How do you see the Jewish people leaving THEIR land ? do you think they will just up and leave ? I don't think so. It is in the Palestinians best interest to live in their borders and make peace with Israel. Israel could easily take the rest of Gaza and the West bank but they have not.
they want to live in peace like the rest of us.

__________________

thanks for clarification
i hope they care and try to purify their mind by getting knowlege from books not from bathroom

you might want to dedicate some time to reading the greatest book ever written. the Holy Bible.

__________________