This is what I find funny about liberals. They look at a perversion like Islam and still attack Christianty. That's just proves that their agenda has no logic, it's simply about hate of Christanity. They think that Christmas trees is a bigger threat to humanity, than the lashing of 19 year old rape victim. They think that a person having a different opininon about birth control is more of a serious threat, then Muslims blowing up school childern. They simply choose to ignore, and even excuse Islam in everyway, but Christianity should be defeated. This mentality just doesn't make since to me.

Who are we to judge? Interesting. Who are we to judge secregation, slavery, communisism, or any other perversion. This is another example of "progressive thinking". The idea of progressive thinking in the hands of liberals is about oppressing the truths, while promoting their agenda. They convince people that's it's socially unacceptable to have a dissenting voice of their agenda. This is what some call social engineering, and these concepts are being indoctrinated at very young ages.

Well you bring up a good point...why don't more moderate Christians speak out about the hijacking of their religion by Dominionists...they have a very negative agenda.

KJ

sorry KJ i'm stupid here.
can you define what you mean by 'Dominionists' ?

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Dominion Theology

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[[LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. ] Dominionism as a broader movement

In the early 1990s, sociologist [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. and journalist [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. defined dominionism as a movement that, while including Dominion Theology and Reconstructionism as subsets, is much broader in scope, extending to much of the [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. .[LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. In his 1992 study of Dominion Theology and its influence on the Christian Right, Bruce Barron writes,

In the context of American evangelical efforts to penetrate and transform public life, the distinguishing mark of a dominionist is a commitment to defining and carrying out an approach to building society that is self-consciously defined as exclusively Christian, and dependent specifically on the work of Christians, rather than based on a broader consensus.[LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. (p. 14, emphasis in original)

According to Diamond, the defining concept of dominionism is "that Christians alone are Biblically mandated to occupy all secular institutions until Christ returns". In 1989, Diamond declared that this concept "has become the central unifying ideology for the Christian Right"[LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. (p.138, emphasis in original). In 1995, she called it "prevalent on the Christian Right."[LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. Journalist [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link. added in 1998 that, although they represent different theological and political ideas, dominionists assert a Christian duty to take "control of a sinful secular society."[LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Political Forum Link.
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1. Dominionists celebrate Christian nationalism, in that they believe that the United States once was, and should once again be, a Christian nation. In this way, they deny the Enlightenment roots of American democracy.
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Here is a link to a lot of different information on Dominionist thinking.



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They are very busy taking over moderate churches and radicalizing them....



KJ

You people want to wave this flag on every issue and it doesn't have any creditability. It's not real, it's not happening.

Do I think there are people in this country that would love to have nothing but a christian government, yes. But there are also people in this country that would love to have a muslim United States, a Buddist United States, an Athiest United States, and so far the atheist are winning.

The chrisitan threat is not a threat at all, in fact I dare say the more you attack it, the more you try to alienate this country from the foundation it was developed on, and yes it had everything to do with GOD, then we risk losing it all.

Just like in the other thread, why are we losing our moral fabric? What is family values. Anymore it is hard question to ask. Look at where we are at in this country, we're at a crossroads. We can continue on this path of self destruction, or we can rewind, and try remember what made this country great at one time, and it had nothing to do with this mentality of EVIL CHRISTIANS trying to dominate everyone.

As far as taking over churchs, I don't know when, if ever you been church, but I can tell that this concept of the strict right wing taking over churchs is a myth, if not just misleading. If anything, churchs are radically moving away from the basics of GOD and Chrisitianity for the benefit of getting the more "main stream" people in the church. It's not about God anymore at a lot of these churchs, it's about being the biggest and the most popular church in town. It's about the sunday morning chrisitan making their presence know for the community. I know these people, I know what I'm talking about.

I was raised in a small peneticostal church in a small town. That type of church doesn't exist anymore. People don't want to feel the guilt when going to church, they don't want to hear the word of God. They want to come to be entertained. They want the pastor to tell them everything is ok.

Well from what I've read even the 4 square Church has fallen under the spell of this non-sense.

KJ

You also have a well documented history of believing anything anti-American, lol, even the most wildest conspriacies. lol That doesn't make you a bad person, just simple minded.


I should have known that you would limit your view to the anti-chrisitan moment. That's a big motivation in a lot of your posts. I guess the thing is, America might make it through this period of "progressive ideology". I'm seeing a movement going away from this perversion. People are starting to understand what is happening. I believe your one of the most delibertly misinformed people I have ever met. I'm not sure you will survive the transition back to morality, lol.


What's are family values to me? I guess it's eaiser to say what it isn't.

Most of your veiws are not family values.

I don't think schools should pass out condoms to 11 year olds. I don't think homosexuality should be addressed in any public school, I don't think minors should be able to get abortions without a parents consent, I think Hollywood and TV should be more responsible on what they provide and who they target to. I don't think Christmas trees is a danger to diversity. I think Christianity should be respected the same as any other religion. I do believe BJ's is sex. I don't believe the word marriage should be redinfined to pander to queers that won't respect anyone else's beliefs. I thihnk parents shoud be the parents, not friends. I think parents should be held more responsible for their childern. I think the N-word shouldn't be accepted if used by a black or a white person. I think the word stereotype, bigot, racist and hero is used to often and in the wrong context.

What is family values, I'm not surprised you don't know KJ.

You yourself don't know what 'family values' is...only what you think it isn't. etc. I didn't ask because I don't know, I want to know if there is anything beyond the talking point...some kind of sincere understanding. I also want to know if you have any idea what your Christian dominated America would look like, what kinds of laws would be in place etc.

Typical.

KJ

I beleive you and Dsolo are the bigots. Because if you notice, I'm not saying you don't have a right to feel the way you feel. I'm the one promoting live and let live. It's actually people like you and Dsolo that's telling everyone else we can't have the opininons we have, we can't believe in what we believe. It's you Jane that is threatening my freedom of free speech and opininon.

You people try to past yourselves off as great communicators of diversity. But then you play judge on what is protected as diversity. Christians have a right to be who they are, and to be protected as much as any one else. Even if their are not cosidered "moderate" enough by people like you.

What you fail to understand or accept is that you want to impose your beliefs, you try to justify these desires by claiming we have a Christian nation, denying diversity, etc. etc. and trying to pass laws to enforce your 'world view'...

What am I stopping you from doing as a Christian? How are you under attack...because you don't garner the 'respect' you think your due....all I can say is when you can talk to someone without being dismissive and demeaning, projecting your moralistic views on them, stop trying to hijack history and science to promote your views... then my guess is that Religion will again be respected...not agreed with but not outed for what the right wing has made it into, a political party....that should be taxed.

Just my view...

KJ