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Islam : A History of Violence
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Old 11.26.2007
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Forbidden Exclamation Islam : A History of Violence

Endless Jihad
The Truth about Islam and Violence

Jihad.

It was once a word unfamiliar to American ears. But in recent years it has become all too familiar. The actions of Muslim militants and terrorists have seared the word into American consciousness.

Yet even with thousands of innocent civilians killed on American soil by Islamic terrorists, the full significance of the Muslim concept of jihad has not been grasped by the American public.

In the days after September 11, 2001, American leaders rushed to portray Islam as a peaceful religion that had been "hijacked" by a fanatical band of terrorists. One hopes that these assurances were merely tactical—that nobody was meant to believe them and that they were meant to assure the Muslim world that the inevitable American reprisals were not directed at their religion as a whole.

If the world Muslim community perceived America as attacking Islam in general then the duty of every Muslim to fight for his religion—the duty of jihad—would have been invoked on a broad scale. The war against terrorism, instead of simmering with occasional flare-ups, like the Cold War, would have boiled over into a global conflagration, with the Muslim countries of the world—1.2 billion strong—mobilizing against America and the West.

Muslim apologists also rushed forward to assure the public that Islam was a peaceful religion. They disingenuously declared that the word Islam means "peace." And they tried to portray the terrorists as a fringe group outside the mainstream of Islam.

These were lies.

The usual meaning of Islam in Arabic is not "peace" but "submission." And if the terrorists were so far outside the mainstream, why did Muslims all over the world burst into joyful, spontaneous celebrations when the hijacked jetliners slammed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon? Why are Islamic governments afraid to show "too much" public support for the war against terrorism? Further, why are all the governments that covertly support terrorism centered in the Muslim world?

The truth is that Islam is not a religion of peace. This is not to say that every Muslim is violent at heart. Many are not. Muslims have the same aspirations for living peaceful lives that people have the world over. But they also have the same potential for violence as others, and Islam as a religion and an ideology seeks to exploit that potential.

Though there are millions of Muslims who want peaceful relations with the West, millions who aspire to live in free societies like America, there nevertheless remains a deep and powerful strain of violence within Islam, and it is important that Americans understand it.

They will have to face it in the future.
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Islam is FAR from a "religion" of peace as some try and say. Their goal IS world domination! Read up about who Muhammad was and what he did in his life...let's just say he was like night v. day as compared to Jesus! Just like Jesus said, ["people will believe the biggest lie rather than the smallest truth."] Make no mistake about it, Iran WILL kill US and Israel if they get a nuclear weapon! The leader of Iran has SAID he thinks he can bring about some prophet...I think they call him Imam? Uh, Islam is NOT a religion to me, it is a "cult."
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Islam is a religion of hate.
it does not allow for tolerance of other religions. although Muslims would argue with this the facts speak for themselves !
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Islam isn't violent! There is violence everywhere, including with our extremists in the USA. Get a glove, grow up and find OUT (read) rather than flap your mouth about something you have no idea about.
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Islam isn't violent! There is violence everywhere, including with our extremists in the USA. Get a glove, grow up and find OUT (read) rather than flap your mouth about something you have no idea about.

Show me evidence of a peasceful Islam.
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Yea, show us some evidence of a "peaceful" Islam. And, we read a LOT about Islam...every day one of them blows something up! Does the world of Islam speak out and denounce them? Of course not. And, yes, I've read the Koran to see what motivates them. Don't act like we are just 'flapping our mouths' because we see/hear/read about this "peaceful" Islam every day. Now, normal Americans may believe you, but those of us willing to take our time in this forum and other forums like it to THINK about all of this are far different from your 'grow up' types. Please understand...we live in reality here. Now, of course Iran doesn't because they can't GET to the truth.
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Islam isn't violent! There is violence everywhere, including with our extremists in the USA. Get a glove, grow up and find OUT (read) rather than flap your mouth about something you have no idea about.

I'll shut my mouth when you open your eye's !
Can you not see what Islam teaches it's followers ? they preach peace and commit violence on a daily basis.


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The Clash of Civilizations


European domination of the Muslim world was short-lived, ending in the 1960s with the close of the de-colonialization that followed World War II. Yet it had an enormous effect on the Muslim psyche.

This effect was somewhat muffled by the Cold War and the tense balance of power between the Western and Soviet spheres. The new Muslim states—the borders of which had been largely and not always skillfully drawn by the withdrawing colonial powers—were too weak to be assertive and fell into the orbits of either of the United States or the Soviet Union. Nationalistic assertiveness was subsumed during the tense, global standoff.

But with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, matters changed. At first, some hailed the event as "the end of history," but other, wiser observers pointed to new dangers in the world, including Islamic militancy.

Samuel Huntington, director of Harvard University’s John M. Olin Institute for Strategic Studies, presciently warned that the end of the Cold War would lead to a period he referred to as "the clash of civilizations." A major flash point he envisioned in this conflict, unsurprisingly, was between Islam and the West.

"After World War II, the West, in turn, began to retreat; the colonial empires disappeared; first Arab nationalism and then Islamic fundamentalism manifested themselves. . . . [The] centuries-old military interaction between the West and Islam is unlikely to decline. It could become more virulent. The Gulf War left some Arabs feeling proud that Saddam Hussein had attacked Israel and stood up to the West. It also left many feeling humiliated and resentful of the West’s military presence in the Persian Gulf, the West’s overwhelming military dominance, and their apparent inability to shape their own destiny."

Huntington noted a common consensus that an inevitable clash between Islam and the West, a clash initiated by the former, was soon to come: "On both sides the interaction between Islam and the West is seen as a clash of civilizations. The West’s ‘next confrontation,’ observes M. J. Akbar, an Indian Muslim author, ‘is definitely going to come from the Muslim world. It is in the sweep of the Islamic nations from the Maghreb to Pakistan that the struggle for a new world order will begin.’"

That confrontation came with the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 and the inauguration of the war against terrorism.

What did the terrorists hope for?

They hoped for a conflict with the West that would end the long, dark winter that Islam has experienced. They hoped that the fortunes of their religion and civilization would be reversed. They hoped for a war that would smash the might of the West and allow a wave Islamic revolutions to sweep away the worldly tyrants ruling Muslim nations. They hoped for a return to purer, stricter Islam, free of Western corruption and values. They hoped that the blessings of God would descend upon their civilization, allowing it to return to its rightful place at the head of nations, with a resurgence of Muslim nationalism that would give birth to the Islamic superstate that long had eluded them.

And they hoped for a new wave of expansion that would allow Islam to establish its destiny of bringing the entire world under Muslim control. In the famous al-Qaeda "dinner conversation" found on videotape in Afghanistan, Osama bin Laden expressed the view that the war he initiated would lead to a wave of Muslim expansion not seen since the religion’s first century, when it consumed half of Christian civilization.

These dreams of a renewed, purified Islam, of the overthrow of existing Muslim governments, of a triumphant smashing of the West, and of expansion through a new jihad are far from confined to bin Laden and his terrorists. They are the dreams that inspire the seething rage of "the Arab street," which so often breaks forth into violent demonstrations at political events beyond its control.
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if they don't condone violence then why were most of the Muslim world dancing in the streets right after 9/11 ?
Religion of peace my azz !!
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Show me evidence of a peasceful Islam.
Whynot hang out with them on a personal level instead of repeatly putting your foot in your mouth.
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