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What Is A Libertarian?
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Libertarianism is a political philosophy maintaining that all persons are the absolute owners of their own lives, and should be free to do whatever they wish with their persons or property, provided they allow others the same liberty. In continental Europe and to a lesser extent the British Isles the older political meaning of "libertarianism" prevails, as a synonym for "anarchism", adapted in late 19th century France as a term that would be more acceptable to the authorities (see libertarian socialism). This article is concerned with libertarianism in its more recent sense.
Broadly speaking, there are two types of libertarians: rights theorists and consequentialists.[1] Rights theorists hold that it is morally imperative that all human interaction, including government interaction with private individuals, should be voluntary and consensual. They maintain that the initiation of force by any person or government, against another person or their property — with "force" meaning the use of physical force, the threat of it, or the commission of fraud against someone — who has not initiated physical force, threat, or fraud, is a violation of that principle. This form of libertarianism is associated with Objectivists as well as with individualist anarchists who believe opposition to the State (i.e, government in general) is consistent with this principle.
Consequentialist libertarians do not have a moral prohibition against "initiation of force," but believe that allowing a very large scope of political and economic liberty results in the maximum well-being or efficiency for a society - even if protecting this liberty involves some initiation of force by government. However, such governmental actions are limited in the free society consequentialists envision. This type of libertarianism is associated with Milton Friedman, Ludwig von Mises, and Friedrich Hayek. Some writers who have been called libertarians have also been referred to as classical liberals, by others or themselves. Also, some use the phrase "the freedom philosophy" to refer to libertarianism, classical liberalism, or both.[2]
Libertarians generally do not oppose force used in response to initiatory aggressions such as violence, fraud or trespassing. Libertarians favor an ethic of self-responsibility and strongly oppose conscription and the welfare state, because they believe coercing someone to provide charity and military service is ethically wrong, ultimately counter-productive, or both. Apart from some very basic principles favoring personal freedom and free markets, there is not a canon of "official" libertarian beliefs. Libertarians may disagree with other libertarians over specific issues.[3] For example, they may differ over abortion issues, and some support the U.S. invasion of Iraq while some oppose it.[4]
Polls show that 10 to 20 percent of voting-age Americans have libertarian views.
Here is their site: Libertarian Party. Do we have any Libertarians reading this?
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Im not a libertarian. I believe the government should have less control over it's people and should mind their own business. Also, to be free, i mean really free, thats they only way. But im independent of all parties. Labels just give other a reason to critisize. Everyone can do, say, feel, or act the way they want to without being labeled.
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Im not a libertarian. I believe the government should have less control over it's people and should mind their own business. Also, to be free, i mean really free, thats they only way. But im independent of all parties. Labels just give other a reason to critisize. Everyone can do, say, feel, or act the way they want to without being labeled.
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Im not a libertarian. I believe the government should have less control over it's people and should mind their own business. Also, to be free, i mean really free, thats they only way. But im independent of all parties. Labels just give other a reason to critisize. Everyone can do, say, feel, or act the way they want to without being labeled.
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I'm with you bro.
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Im not a libertarian. I believe the government should have less control over it's people and should mind their own business. Also, to be free, i mean really free, thats they only way. But im independent of all parties. Labels just give other a reason to critisize. Everyone can do, say, feel, or act the way they want to without being labeled.
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Is this the clay aiken fan club forum, or a politcal forum? I can't tell anymore. What the hell was this all about? The only picture I was able to get in my head during this "born free" speech was of hard as a little kid getting pounded during a dodge ball game, because of he wore his "I Like Leaf Garret" T-shirt to gym class one day. Lord have mercy.
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Is this the clay aiken fan club forum, or a politcal forum? I can't tell anymore. What the hell was this all about? The only picture I was able to get in my head during this "born free" speech was of hard as a little kid getting pounded during a dodge ball game, because of he wore his "I Like Leaf Garret" T-shirt to gym class one day. Lord have mercy.
Sounds like they would make a good "3-way" to me!! 4 if you add in Rue Paul 08!!:biggrin100 (41):
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Sounds like they would make a good "3-way" to me!! 4 if you add in Rue Paul 08!!:biggrin100 (41):
I bet your a Yankee to boot. LMAO
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Is this the clay aiken fan club forum, or a politcal forum? I can't tell anymore. What the hell was this all about? The only picture I was able to get in my head during this "born free" speech was of hard as a little kid getting pounded during a dodge ball game, because of he wore his "I Like Leaf Garret" T-shirt to gym class one day. Lord have mercy.
I actually laughed out loud when I read that one. Great post.
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Have no fear the libertarian supporters r here

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Sounds like they would make a good "3-way" to me!! 4 if you add in Rue Paul 08!!:biggrin100 (41):
Jam, why don't you take your sorry excuse for a NEOCON and go have sexual relations with yourself.
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