Middle East Cannot Handle Democracy - Political Ravings Forum

WiseOne · #1 03.23.2008

I do NOT believe the morons in the Middle East (Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, and the like) can handle a Democratic form of government and would be better off with a dictatorship. The US proved this in Iraq...those idiots cannot take care of themselves after FIVE years of us spilling our blood over there! It seems as if Iraqi's are a bunch of simple-minded idiots at this point...they have not the will to pull together and stand up for themselves! So, a dictator CAN force them into line for sure. Think of it as a prison type of mentality...they like to be told what to do. It relieves them for having to think for themselves or having to protect themselves, etc., IMHO.

It is FOOLISH of the United States to think we can force our type of government on that area of the world given their religious hatred and such. Those type of brainwashed imbeciles ONLY respect force rather than talk.

What do you all think? This has been WiseOne's opinion, LOL.

Smurf-316 · #2 03.23.2008

even within the Arab and Muslim nations the people are oppressed by their government. anybody know why?
its simple really. because the government knows that they could not control the people without resulting to brute force. this is the only way they can prevent chaos in a Muslim nation. Saddam knew how to keep power and order in Iraq. if you started acting stupid he made you disappear. not to just hold power but to keep the Arabs from mass genocide. works the same way now as then.

For some reason the Muslims aren't smart enough to realize that they are their own worst enemy.

WiseOne · #3 03.23.2008

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For some reason the Muslims aren't smart enough to realize that they are their own worst enemy.

EXACTLY! They either cannot or will not think for themselves, but would rather others do it for them, of course, it is easier that way. Most humans are well-known to take the easy way out and those morons sure fit the mold.

crazy canuk · #4 05.12.2008

The west has a long history of bringing freedom and democracy to people who neither want it or are able to handle it and make it work. The allies forced democracy on Germany after WW1. The result was the Wiemar republic which ment chaos for Germany until a strong leader came along that was able to tell them what to do. We all know who this was. Hitler was the result of forcing our ideas of freedom and personal responsibility on people to whom this was just foreign to everything that they had ever known.It makes me cringe when I hear W say "and we will bring them freedom" he should add,"even if we have to kill them all to do it". The prime idea behind western democracy that is based on British common law ,which includes the USA and Canada is that the indivdual is supreme over the state Thereby giving us our rights which make us free. In the name of freedom W is doing everything he can to take away some of the pillars of freedom, eg habeus corpus. Once these freedoms are lost they are not easy to regain as all politicans like the most power that they can get. So beware people you wouldn't like to wake up some day to the UNited Military states of America.

WiseOne · #5 05.13.2008

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The west has a long history of bringing freedom and democracy to people who neither want it or are able to handle it and make it work.

You're right and it is sad. Look at China...they seem to be doing just fine under Communism. I think it really is naive of American's to think that our form of government can be handled by all. Look at Iran, they have a LOT of educated people that STILL can't think for themselves and NEED to be told what to do with a strong leader. So, I don't know...

crazy canuk · #6 05.13.2008

Why do we in the west assume that other countries and cultures have any desire for our form of society at all? Let's use Jordon as an example. Jordon is a very conservitive, traditional culture based on values like respect for elders and the family. Deeply held religous beliefs and many other aspects of the Semetic ways.
When they look at the western democracies what do they see? They see a society that is very evil in their eyes. Porn. flourshing everywhere. Divorce and marital infidelity the norm. Families torn apart everyday. Children with no respect for their parents. The never ending lust for material gain. I could go on and on but I have made my point. In many of these cultures their worst nightmare would to become like us. If the intent was to bring human rights to these nations I think that would be a noble cause. However the Neocons want to export American culture all across the globe. The people of the world will never accept this and America better realize that not everyone wants a Dizney Land or a Walmart or a Los Vagus or any of the other icons of American commercial culture.

Antiochus · #7 10.01.2008

Democracy failed in Iraq because, unlike a toyota, democracy cannot be exported.

Every democratic nations had to go through an internal revolution (violent, peaceful or even purely intelectual) to get to that point. But to go in and force democracy is completly stupid. As for democracy in the middle east, it worked in several nations such and the best exemple among those is clearly Turkey.

wdp · #8 10.04.2008

Although Turkey is trying to be a democracy, it is still heavily influenced by religious concepts.

Have you ever seen "Midnight Express"?

It will be generations before or if Turkey will be a Democracy as defined by western thought.

Respectfully,

wdp

WiseOne · #9 10.04.2008

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Originally Posted by Antiochus

Democracy failed in Iraq because, unlike a toyota, democracy cannot be exported.

Every democratic nations had to go through an internal revolution (violent, peaceful or even purely intelectual) to get to that point. But to go in and force democracy is completly stupid. As for democracy in the middle east, it worked in several nations such and the best exemple among those is clearly Turkey.

Agreed, Democracy cannot be exported. Some of those morons from Arabia simply cannot handle it. They LIKE being told what to do, I think. They like Dictators. We have to realize that not all people have the guts to be on their OWN...they have a "prison-like" mentality...meaning they like structure and being told what to do. It SURE it easier to be a robot rather than do and think for yourself. Look at Africa...those idiots have been over there since the beginning of time and they STILL haven't done CRAP. Why? Because they can't. Period. They are simply too stupid. Not trying to be mean, but it is OBVIOUSLY true.

Antiochus · #10 10.05.2008

Not really true. Several nations, including Iran, would still be democratic if it wasnt for American interventions (such as Operation Ajax).

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