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10.06.2008
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| Hello, are we really talking in the real world? The middle east has never been peaceful and there never has been a lasting democracy. To say Turkey is a Democracy is to say the sun has a shadow. It's not America that destroys anyone's ability to become a democratic republic Antiochus, it's jealousy of America that inherits countries to despise us. If you hate us this much at your young age, I will buy you a ticket to the socialist country of your choice. You can live there for 5 years and then fly back on my dime and I will ask you again how America is so bad. Want to take my offer? I am dead serious!  |
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#12
10.06.2008
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| 1) America has destroyed democracies. I mentionned the case of Iran (Operation Ajax), because its concequences are obvious now. The same is true about the U.S backed murder of Ngo Dinh Diem, which resulted in the terrible war in Vietnam. You also seem to forget the coup in Chile, during which the United States remplaced the democratically elected Allende by the monster know today as Pinochet. 2) The Middle East was united from the 1500s to 1918 under the Ottoman empire. Its current political chaos is mostly due the the Sykes-Picot treaty, which destroyed its geopolitical stability and the post-colonial status of half its other nations. 3)Why isnt Turkey a democracy. It had elections and is on the verge of entering the EU. Im well aware that its not perfect, but coming from a guy living in a nation with a man who stole the elections in 2000, the point is weak.
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02.21.2009
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| ThIs is a battle of the mind and spirit. The problems in the Middle East are caused by a lack of knowledge for a lack of a better word, spirituality. All actions and attitudes are first formed in the mind. These people do not understand who they are and why they are here on earth. Most people do not. If we all understood we would lives our lives in a much different manner. I say this because the problem is religion. I am by no means an atheist. However, being religious dose not mean that a person has a real connection with the creator. In fact if we look throughout history we will see that religion has been used to control people. Today itīs the Muslim world. Before it was the Holy Roman Empire. So how dose this relate to what we are talking about? These people have lived in a world that is isolated. They have been taught to hate those that do not share the same faith as they have. They, much like earlier Catholics were, are not allowed to read the bible or any other religous text. Mosque and state are one in the same. As in Saudia Arabia. So no diologue can be started. No debate or challenges are tolerated. No real in dept search for the creator or the meaning of life can be done for fear or execution. This is similar to the Spanish Inquisition. Christianity had itīs reformation and I dare say it continues today. This is not happened in the Muslim world. But this must happen if there is ever to be peace. Today many like myself are redefing our relationship with god and the universe. We live in a great period where we can study Quantum Physics and Mechanics. We are finding that the universe is far more fantastic than we ever dreamed. The Muslims as well as others must have access to this new knowledge as it rexeils itself. For example, in the Bible it is written that God knew us before we were born. That is because we are devine. We exsisted long before the universe was created. We are all sons and daughters of God. But most, especially the Muslims donīt know this. Talk with one and you will see the problem. The concept that God is love , dose not compute. The Westīs fear of a backlash if we were to start such a dialogue will keep those people in the dark. They will continue as they have done. The violence will not stop. There will only be violent repressive theocracies. For more info see Unlocking the mysteries of life Zeitgeist Zeitgeist II Addendum Proof of a creator All can be seen on Google Video |
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