[politicallymoderate]

Originally Posted by jamwadmag

Reverse Racism

Get with the program, PM!! Racism concerning Black/White has historically been white hatred of the black race. When it's black hatred of the white race (not just for skin color, but econimical and societal), the term being used is "Reverse Racism."

sorry but nowhere in the definition of rascism does it say White against NONwhite. thus...A Blackman hating a White man isn't reverse racism..ITS RACISM!!!!!!!
That really is a issue. Unless people can look at a problem honestly then it can never be solved.



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noun Definition: 1. animosity toward other races: prejudice or animosity against people who belong to other races

2. belief in racial superiority: the belief that people of different races have different qualities and abilities, and that some races are inherently superior or inferior

[jamwadmag]

Originally Posted by politicallymoderate

sorry but nowhere in the definition of rascism does it say White against NONwhite. thus...A Blackman hating a White man isn't reverse racism..ITS RACISM!!!!!!!
That really is a issue. Unless people can look at a problem honestly then it can never be solved.

This is what Smurf and I have been saying for weeks on here!! The Reverse Racism is just more PC (meaning, 'the Blacks were offended FIRST!")...ha ha

[BIGJ]

Originally Posted by jamwadmag

Took you long enuf to 'grind that axe,' BIGJ!!
I'm not letting ppl like you get away with cheap shots in regards to racism!! And, I wont let ppl like you try to put the 'white guilt trip' on me or others around me while I can respond!! I've had to put up with all the innuendos and "poor me's" from your types my whole life...let me tell you a little about me:

1) My best friend on my Little League team was my catcher, Elston, a big black kid (I was the pitcher, and we played 'catch alot)---I was the only one who could call him 'Elsie' and get away with it.

2) I use to double-date white German girls while in the service with my Black barracks roommate Rick from Philly.

3) While in college, dated a Black girl named Toni, who worked in a topless club.

4) My daughter's 1st husband was 1/2 Black whom she met while both in the Army. So guess I didnt 'pollute' her views!!

And, lets see...the only white sheets I've ever owned have been on my bed---no, wait...cut some holes in one as kid and went trick-or-treating as a ghost!!


Those who personally know me would agree with me when I say that you're just ANOTHER one trying to put the 'white guilt trip' on..AGAIN, BIGJ, this crap doesnt 'work' on me...

You might better start working on 'your own' laundry...tell me about your interactions with 'whites?'

My own laundry is clean, do you use Tide? I am not putting the white guilt trip on you nor that is the intention. You can say I have a black friend etc all you want. The real issue is the lack of understanding you have. That is the real issue.

You have a lack of understanding when it comes within the African-American or the Hispanic-American community or culture. You lack insight.

I am not letting you, jam, getting away with your earlier comment "'pessimistic, Black 1st & American 2nd, reverse racist," among others. You do not know shyt about me.
I live in a place, a small rural area where whites are 70-75% of the poplution. So are you suggesting I hate 75% of my own community?

The only person I have hate for is you.

[jamwadmag]

Originally Posted by BIGJ

I live in a place, a small rural area where whites are 70-75% of the poplution. So are you suggesting I hate 75% of my own community?

The only person I have hate for is you.

Your true 'colors' have just come thru! I dont hate anyone, myself---looks like you have the problem. I've been around this earth and this life to really not care what bigoted ppl like you care about hearing the truth. Your 'crybaby' and hate filled words mean nothing to me. I'm old enuf not to care about winning a personality contest or being PC. I suggest that you quit whining about the Black U.S. history and move on like many successful Black ppl have. Bill Cosby is right---using excuses does not excuse the Black race from being successful. Just like the whites, finish H.S., go to college or trade school, and get with the program instead of just bi*ching about how life is unfair! I firmly believe that it is ppl LIKE YOU who are holding down any progression in Civil Rights from this generation. You act like it is white ppl's problem about 'holding on to their purse' that is THEIR problem---on the contrary, look at the prison population. The ppl that I mentioned in being my 'Black friends' did get with the program and werent bitter about their lot in life. They all ended up succeeding and finding their own way! If you have a problem with the 75% of whites in your community---then move out. The military is a good place to succeed and not be judged on your race. I get tired on the cheap shot of pulling out 'the race card' by the supposed Black leaders of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton, not to mention Wright who have gotten rich off of the Black community!

[BIGJ]

Originally Posted by jamwadmag

Your true 'colors' have just come thru! I dont hate anyone, myself---looks like you have the problem. I've been around this earth and this life to really not care what bigoted ppl like you care about hearing the truth. Your 'crybaby' and hate filled words mean nothing to me. I'm old enuf not to care about winning a personality contest or being PC. I suggest that you quit whining about the Black U.S. history and move on like many successful Black ppl have. Bill Cosby is right---using excuses does not excuse the Black race from being successful. Just like the whites, finish H.S., go to college or trade school, and get with the program instead of just bi*ching about how life is unfair! I firmly believe that it is ppl LIKE YOU who are holding down any progression in Civil Rights from this generation. You act like it is white ppl's problem about 'holding on to their purse' that is THEIR problem---on the contrary, look at the prison population. The ppl that I mentioned in being my 'Black friends' did get with the program and werent bitter about their lot in life. They all ended up succeeding and finding their own way! If you have a problem with the 75% of whites in your community---then move out. The military is a good place to succeed and not be judged on your race. I get tired on the cheap shot of pulling out 'the race card' by the supposed Black leaders of Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton, not to mention Wright who have gotten rich off of the Black community!

This post of yours proves how dumb you are, Jamwadmag. What do I have to do with the prison popultion? Tell me where I have to do with Prison poplution? Come on and tell me Jam?
I am not ######## about how unfair life is but it is about lack of learning and understanding you and others have. Pay attention to the underscores I've made. You lack any though and you lack any understanding. That is the issue.

It is funny that you can sit there and call me a Bigot when you, yourself, made general terms for African Americans, history, or use innuendos.
You are being attack by me because you are not being honest pure and simple.
Lets read some of your innuendos.

Originally Posted by jamwadmag

The "Rev's" will gripe about the press treatment of Obama, etc. and as is done today about EVERYTHING, will 'racieize his term and treatment as the Pres...dont forget the black community hero O.J. ..all proof pointed to him 'doing it,' but since it was a black man who killed a white woman, the entire black community cheered him on while getting acquitted!!

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Originally Posted by jamwadmag

Is that where the guys like PM got the title "Honky?!"

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Originally Posted by jamwadmag

.' Alan Keyes sounded too much like a Black Pentecostal preacher during the secular debates... just a fact of life

Read your statements Jamwadmag.

Since you think I am a racist, let me shed some light about me before you make something up about me. Everything I got I earn. There was no government program that did that. I do not wake up in the morning saying I am black and will be attack etc. I earn my own grades in High School, college, etc. You by suggesting I am not makes you into an idiot. Most of my friends are white and even some members of family are white, so dont try to play this shame on you game with me jamwadmag.

I do not care for or about Jesse Jackson, AL Sharpton, or Jerry Wright, but when I hear conservatives either attacking the Black Chruch like Radio Talk Show host Bill Cunningham and having an major misunderstanding about issues, history, concerns of minority citizens that is what angers me.
It is your own lack of understanding is the problem and not my own so-called racism.

Your true colors are coming out, Jam.

[jamwadmag]

Your anger is coming out, BIGJ! I have been trying to champion the Blacks who have 'fit in' with our system of life, and you just want reparations and whining! I have had many good relationships with the Black community is this life, but I dont have any tolerance for whiners and complainers who dont try to fit in with 'the system!' The system is the system for Whites as well as Blacks!
BTW, you didnt address the point where I said Mike Huckabee had the same problem as Alan Keyes---a preacher under bias! You dont sound noble or a martyr, BIGJ, just a whiner!! Get with the program!!

[Smurf-316]

I think this thread has gone as about as far as it can go.
I don't have a problem with Blacks. one of my best friends is black. he has come to my home many times and had dinner with me & my family. my kids and his kids sometimes spend the night at both our homes. But he and i both agree we don't like people make excuses for being a sorry azzhole. this mentality that somebody owes me something because I'm black or Mexican is alot of BS. I KNOW ALL PEOPLE ARE NOT THAT WAY but some are.
If you choose to be a piece of sh*t all your life then thats on you. i don't give a damn what color you are. be a man and stand up and take responsibility for your life is the way i see these kinda of people. if you choose to be a loser it has nothing to do with the color of your skin.

[jamwadmag]

I didnt start this thread to be race bashing, but to bring some awareness to the issue ----some ppl took it personally! Wasnt my original intentions---but I'm tired of the quickness of the race card being pulled to intimidate other folks..there is opportunity is this country for ALL of us!

[BIGJ]

Originally Posted by jamwadmag

Your anger is coming out, BIGJ! I have been trying to champion the Blacks who have 'fit in' with our system of life, and you just want reparations and whining! I have had many good relationships with the Black community is this life, but I dont have any tolerance for whiners and complainers who dont try to fit in with 'the system!' The system is the system for Whites as well as Blacks!
BTW, you didnt address the point where I said Mike Huckabee had the same problem as Alan Keyes---a preacher under bias! You dont sound noble or a martyr, BIGJ, just a whiner!! Get with the program!!

Here you go again, Jamwadmag. You are sure putting words in my mouth. Where in my post I say anything advcating reparations? Where Jam? You are using sterotypes. You have twice use the term whiners and reparations, those are nothing more than modern sterotpyes when ever a Black person express his/her postion strongly and forcely. Maybe I am too upptipy for you.
I do not give an rat's ### whether or not I am a martyr or sound noble. I care for is the turth and what you are saying is not true.

Speaking about the system, I am in the system just like you. However, However, I got news for you THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN. When you have an uneducated poplution who don't know their collective history, then the system is broken. When you have an unfair forigen policy that uses force instead of seeking peace, then the system is broken. If we have a huge national debt, guess what the system is broken.
We have taxpayers money that should be helping ourselves going to forgien dictators. The system is broken and you are part of the problem.
Alan Keyes isn't a preacher but he is a conservative. Which brings me why conservatives are complaining about a lack of a conservative in the race, when they have one.
This is why conservatives are not an open people like they want us to believe. NO no no don't play that "you are a liberal" game, because I am hardly a liberal either.

BTW, I am not an adocvate for reparations, nor favor it. find some other excuse, Jam. Find something on me that is based on fact and not your sterotype.

I highly doubt you will answer any of my questions.

Originally Posted by Smurf-316

I think this thread has gone as about as far as it can go.

I think it hasn't gone far enough. You smurf, stated that Obama is a racist, then later you are saying I am only supporting Obama because he is black.
If he was such a racist as you are putting out then howcome most of his campigan staff are lily white?
Can you answer that? If not then you do not have a leg to stand on. As for me, I don't care if Obama have blue eyes, blonde hair, and light fair skin. As long as he favor the issues I like, there isn't a problem. You have no legs to stand on.

Originally Posted by jamwadmag

I didnt start this thread to be race bashing, but to bring some awareness to the issue ----some ppl took it personally! Wasnt my original intentions---but I'm tired of the quickness of the race card being pulled to intimidate other folks..there is opportunity is this country for ALL of us!

In some areas of this country, there are opportunities being prevented for numerous of reasons. Second, if you are so tried of the race card being pull, then why did you pull one in the first place?
So are you saying what is good for the goose isn't for the gander?

[jamwadmag]

Originally Posted by BIGJ

Here you go again, Jamwadmag. You are sure putting words in my mouth. Where in my post I say anything advcating reparations? Where Jam? You are using sterotypes. You have twice use the term whiners and reparations, those are nothing more than modern sterotpyes when ever a Black person express his/her postion strongly and forcely. Maybe I am too upptipy for you.

Originally Posted by BIGJ from "Obama Wright? - Pastor Jeremiah Wright & Senator Barack, Post #10

Jamwadmag, I know history. Africa has been nothing more than a free labor bed and look down as a lesser class by ancient Chinese, Arabs, and the Eurporean people. My point is from the American and an African- American point of view and I would like the focus to stay on American history.
Moving pass something is not something what a Christian should so. He or she should address them. Moving pass something or forgetting it will repeat the events of the past. If there are injustices, which there are some, then justice and repayment should be in order.

That smacks of the old 'reparations are in order!!

BTW, BIGJ, you might want to enroll yourself in an "Anger Mgmt' Course, your outrage is getting old!