[WiseOne]

Barack Obama has won SC. One more roadblock for Hillary, PHEW.

[Smurf-316]

Well no big surprise there.
over half the voters were black so i saw that one coming. however i do believe this will pretty much be his last important win. he'll lose big time come super Tuesday. there are just not enough states he can swing his way.
the media will make a big deal out of this win in S.C. but it will evaporate very quickly. he'll need to win at least 10 states to remain competitive. i don't see that happening.

[Cybergal]

I didn't want him to get one vote......

[bbkeo]

Big shock there lol. I have only been saying he would win for about a week now.

Hey Wiseone here are some numbers for you. This will probably put you in a bad mood lol...

Delegate count after SC primary

Clinton: 230

Obama: 152

Edwards: 61

States voting on super tuesday and who is leading in the polling as of tonight....


Alabama
Primary, 60 delegates Hillary

Alaska
Caucus, 18 delegates Hillary

Arizona
Primary, 67 delegates Hillary

Arkansas
Primary, 47 delegates Hillary

California
Primary, 441 delegates Hillary

Colorado
Caucus, 71 delegates Hillary

Connecticut
Primary, 60 delegates Hillary

Delaware
Primary, 23 delegates Hillary

Georgia
Primary, 103 delegates Obama

Idaho
Caucus, 23 delegates Obama

Illinois
Primary, 185 delegates Obama

Kansas
Caucus, 41 delegates Hillary

Massachusetts
Primary, 121 delegates Hillary

Minnesota
Caucus, 88 delegates Hillary

Missouri
Primary, 88 delegates Hillary

New Jersey
Primary, 127 delegates Hillary

New Mexico
Caucus, 38 delegates Hillary

New York
Primary, 281 delegates Hillary

North Dakota
Caucus, 21 delegates Virtual tie

Oklahoma
Primary, 47 delegates Virtual tie

Tennessee
Primary, 85 delegates Hillary

Utah
Primary, 29 delegates Hillary

It's far from over. All she has to do is pick up the states she is the strongest in. Like NY,NJ,CA,CT, and Mass along with one or two more. Which so far with the data that I have been looking at is a strong possibility. Also at this point Edwards might be able to pull out a few second place finishes. From what I have seen so far from OK he might have a chance there.

[BIGJ]

Originally Posted by Smurf-316

Well no big surprise there.
over half the voters were black so i saw that one coming. however i do believe this will pretty much be his last important win. he'll lose big time come super Tuesday. there are just not enough states he can swing his way.
the media will make a big deal out of this win in S.C. but it will evaporate very quickly. he'll need to win at least 10 states to remain competitive. i don't see that happening.

Didn't you say the same thing about Iowa? Since everyone is on this "Black Vote" thing. Not every black person is going to vote for the black candidate. Obama has something what Jesse Jackson and Al Shapton never had. A message and a attuide to bring people together. You also forgot that most Black Americans live in the South and the Midwest. Half of them hardly vote.

Originally Posted by WiseOne

Barack Obama has won SC. One more roadblock for Hillary, PHEW.

AMEN. I hope and pray this isn't just only a rockblock, but a plat tire.

Originally Posted by bbkeo

Big shock there lol. I have only been saying he would win for about a week now.

Hey Wiseone here are some numbers for you. This will probably put you in a bad mood lol...

Delegate count after SC primary

Clinton: 230

Obama: 152

Edwards: 61

States voting on super tuesday and who is leading in the polling as of tonight....


Alabama
Primary, 60 delegates Hillary

Alaska
Caucus, 18 delegates Hillary

Arizona
Primary, 67 delegates Hillary

Arkansas
Primary, 47 delegates Hillary

California
Primary, 441 delegates Hillary

Colorado
Caucus, 71 delegates Hillary

Connecticut
Primary, 60 delegates Hillary

Delaware
Primary, 23 delegates Hillary

Georgia
Primary, 103 delegates Obama

Idaho
Caucus, 23 delegates Obama

Illinois
Primary, 185 delegates Obama

Kansas
Caucus, 41 delegates Hillary

Massachusetts
Primary, 121 delegates Hillary

Minnesota
Caucus, 88 delegates Hillary

Missouri
Primary, 88 delegates Hillary

New Jersey
Primary, 127 delegates Hillary

New Mexico
Caucus, 38 delegates Hillary

New York
Primary, 281 delegates Hillary

North Dakota
Caucus, 21 delegates Virtual tie

Oklahoma
Primary, 47 delegates Virtual tie

Tennessee
Primary, 85 delegates Hillary

Utah
Primary, 29 delegates Hillary

It's far from over. All she has to do is pick up the states she is the strongest in. Like NY,NJ,CA,CT, and Mass along with one or two more. Which so far with the data that I have been looking at is a strong possibility. Also at this point Edwards might be able to pull out a few second place finishes. From what I have seen so far from OK he might have a chance there.

Like Wiseone I would be in a bad mood as well. I hope these numbers would change in the next few days.
There is a shred of hope and that is the daughter of the Late President John F. Kennedy. Her endorsement could get Obama , Massachusetts and maybe Connecticut . For a side note, John F Kennedy Jr, was requested to run in the 2000 US Senate election instead of Hillary. No one add him to the list of deaths connected to the Clintons. LOL.
I disagree with you on some of those states. Senator McCaskil endorsement of Obama will be a factor in Missouri. I also think New Jersey and North Dakota will swing Obama . Harold Ford will be a factor in Tennessee since he is endorsing Obama. As far as California, I think George Coolney ‘s influence in Hollywood will help Obama.

[Smurf-316]

Originally Posted by BIGJ

Didn't you say the same thing about Iowa? Since everyone is on this "Black Vote" thing. Not every black person is going to vote for the black candidate.

the bottom line is Obama does not have the support Clinton does. sure he will gain some popularity because of his win in S.C. but that win was hardly a surprise to anyone no matter how much they spin it.
the big surprise would have been if he had lost S.C.! that would show he could not win the Black vote. thats very bad news if your a black Candidate running for president. what allot of people are failing to see is that S.C. really shows Obama's weakness's.
he only won 23% of the white vote. this is very bad news for Obama. he is sure as hell gonna need allot more than that to win the big states that have a far smaller black vote. despite what the Media says Clinton is still by FAR in much better shape than Obama. she has plenty of cash and plans to do well in the states that really matter. and in the end she will be the Nominee.

[WiseOne]

That's true, BBKEO, I am in a bad mood now, LOL. Well, I KNOW Hillary is going to get NY with the polls staying at 48% Hillary, to 23% Barack. Yup, from the looks of it, Hillary is going to be the nominee in the end. May God Help us all...the thought of her soiling the White House once again makes me want to puke.

[bbkeo]

Well a new Rasmussen poll came out this morning. I don't usually put alot of stock into these things because they change daily. But Hillary had a 4 point bump and Obama is down 2 Edwards in up by 2. That's just one poll though I am still looking for others.

[bbkeo]

Originally Posted by BIGJ

Like Wiseone I would be in a bad mood as well. I hope these numbers would change in the next few days.
There is a shred of hope and that is the daughter of the Late President John F. Kennedy. Her endorsement could get Obama , Massachusetts and maybe Connecticut . For a side note, John F Kennedy Jr, was requested to run in the 2000 US Senate election instead of Hillary. No one add him to the list of deaths connected to the Clintons. LOL.
I disagree with you on some of those states. Senator McCaskil endorsement of Obama will be a factor in Missouri. I also think New Jersey and North Dakota will swing Obama . Harold Ford will be a factor in Tennessee since he is endorsing Obama. As far as California, I think George Coolney ‘s influence in Hollywood will help Obama.

I don't know. I think Clintons support in the NE and CA will eclipse Obama's just from the data I have seen so far. He might be able to pull off ND because it is a caucas state. As of right now I don't see him winning TN or MO. But there is still another week to go so things can and will change.

[BIGJ]

Originally Posted by Smurf-316

the bottom line is Obama does not have the support Clinton does. sure he will gain some popularity because of his win in S.C. but that win was hardly a surprise to anyone no matter how much they spin it.
the big surprise would have been if he had lost S.C.! that would show he could not win the Black vote. thats very bad news if your a black Candidate running for president. what allot of people are failing to see is that S.C. really shows Obama's weakness's.
he only won 23% of the white vote. this is very bad news for Obama. he is sure as hell gonna need allot more than that to win the big states that have a far smaller black vote. despite what the Media says Clinton is still by FAR in much better shape than Obama. she has plenty of cash and plans to do well in the states that really matter. and in the end she will be the Nominee.

I doubt she will get the Democratic nod. Second, the Real Surpise is the distance between Obama and Hillary. Even if you add up Edwards and Hillary votes. They do not equal to Obama's. You also forgot Smurf is that Iowa, a state when Blacks are less than 2%, went to Obama. You also forgot Nevada, where Obama won two-thrids of the counties. Those counties are at least 75% whites. Las Vegas was Hillary's stronger showing.

I will go on a limb tonight and say Obama will win the Texas, Lousiana, and Okalama Democratic Primaries.

Originally Posted by WiseOne

That's true, BBKEO, I am in a bad mood now, LOL. Well, I KNOW Hillary is going to get NY with the polls staying at 48% Hillary, to 23% Barack. Yup, from the looks of it, Hillary is going to be the nominee in the end. May God Help us all...the thought of her soiling the White House once again makes me want to puke.

New York??? Clinton is the strongest, but as long as that dreadful Al Sharpton keep his fat mouth shut. Obama might close the gap in some areas.

Originally Posted by bbkeo

I don't know. I think Clintons support in the NE and CA will eclipse Obama's just from the data I have seen so far. He might be able to pull off ND because it is a caucas state. As of right now I don't see him winning TN or MO. But there is still another week to go so things can and will change.

I would say lets watch Al Gore's movements.