[bbkeo]

The Federal Bureau of Investigation recently released the 2006 Hate Crimes statistics, which lists detailed information about last year’s hate crime incidents all across the country. Two major sections of this report are particularly interesting. The first was (as those who know me might suspect) are the statistics of hate crimes motivated by the victims’ sexual orientation. The second is the stats that relate to incidents against Hispanics/Latino-Americans.
The report, which can be found here is one of the most comprehensive reports ever filed and gives a broad picture of just who is being attacked and why. In Clarksville, authorities reported a total of ten hate crimes. Three of those crimes were due to a person’s race, four were attacks based on religion, two were motivated by the victim’s sexual orientation, and one was bias against the person’s ethnicity. The FBI report indicates that the single most targeted ethnic group is Hispanics/Latino-Americans.
The national statistics are fare more interesting. According to the report, there were 770 attacks across the US against Hispanics/Latino-Americans last year. Antisemitism still rears its ugly head, since 1,027 incidents against Jews occurred. In contrast, there were 1,485 attacks based on the victim’s sexual orientation. These hate crimes are everything from graffiti to robberies to assaults to hanging nooses. The report indicates “crimes against property” and “crimes against person,” and lists some broad categories of each. The crimes against persons would include assault, robbery, murder, etc. Crimes against property would be vandalism, graffiti, and other related incidents.
Sadly, the report indicates a lot of silence as well. In fact, in Tennessee only 65 agencies even bothered to submit a report. “Well,” one might say, “Aren’t there 95 counties in the state?” Yes, there are. However, in those 95 counties, there are 459 law enforcement agencies. In fact, the national average isn’t much better with a little less than 17 percent of all agencies providing hate crime data.



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This is the statistic that interested me the most. Ofcourse some would have us believe that there are no hate crimes commited against homosexuals.


Sexual-orientation bias

In 2006, law enforcement agencies reported 1,415 hate crime offenses based on sexual- orientation bias. Of these offenses:

• 62.3 percent were classified as anti-male homosexual biased.
• 20.7 percent were classified as anti-homosexual biased.
• 13.6 percent were classified as anti-female homosexual biased.
• 2.0 percent were classified as anti-heterosexual biased.
• 1.5 percent were classified as anti-bisexual biased.

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[TheKing]

What type of crimes occured? Wasall these crimes violent physical crimes, and would they be defined as a hate crime if occured against a heterosexual white person?

The problem with hate crimes is the abuse by local entites to esculate a charge to a "federal hate crime" to make a politcal statement, or to over-prosecute a suspect. Over prosecution is nothing new in this justice system. Prosecutors are gaged by the number, and varity of crimes prosecuted, not by how many weren't prosecuted.

Now a prosecutor can make a poltical statement that's he's tough on hate crime because in his district he had 63 hate crime convictions. That doesn't mean there were 63 real hate crimes in his district, it just means through legal manuevering that he was able to prosecute 63 bad guys for these charges. Anymore any crime committed against a black, homosexual, or any other minority could be characterized as a hate crime under these laws.

If you don't think this happens look a Nifong. He is a perfect example of this type of prosecutor. Luckly those duke kids had enough money to fight the charges. But remember how they were treated by their school, by the country, by the media in the beginning stages of all this. This is the danger in this type of issue. People's hyper-emotions on this issue start controlling their rational thought process. Don't think for a second if this thing didn't blow up in Nifong's face, he wouldn't have found away to add hate crime charges.

I do believe there are real hate crimes, do I believe every hate crime reported was a hate crime, no. We all know, or should know how this game is played by elected prosecutors.

[Mastertech]

LMAO....that story is a JOKE!

“What part of ‘illegal’ do you not understand?” or so the mantra goes. Replace “illegal” with “Jews” in that sentence, and you can see just how dangerous this attitude really is. No, it’s not really “that simple.” Anyone who’s dealt with the Immigration and Nationalization “Service” knows very well how visas can expire, and how much of a hassle it is to renew.

People that are here illegally are CRIMINALS.....what part of that is so hard to understand.
These people are here illegally so they never had a visa to begin with... It's amazing the spin some people will put on some things.....enough to make you puke!

[bbkeo]

Originally Posted by TheKing

What type of crimes occured? Wasall these crimes violent physical crimes, and would they be defined as a hate crime if occured against a heterosexual white person?

The problem with hate crimes is the abuse by local entites to esculate a charge to a "federal hate crime" to make a politcal statement, or to over-prosecute a suspect. Over prosecution is nothing new in this justice system. Prosecutors are gaged by the number, and varity of crimes prosecuted, not by how many weren't prosecuted.

Now a prosecutor can make a poltical statement that's he's tough on hate crime because in his district he had 63 hate crime convictions. That doesn't mean there were 63 real hate crimes in his district, it just means through legal manuevering that he was able to prosecute 63 bad guys for these charges. Anymore any crime committed against a black, homosexual, or any other minority could be characterized as a hate crime under these laws.

If you don't think this happens look a Nifong. He is a perfect example of this type of prosecutor. Luckly those duke kids had enough money to fight the charges. But remember how they were treated by their school, by the country, by the media in the beginning stages of all this. This is the danger in this type of issue. People's hyper-emotions on this issue start controlling their rational thought process. Don't think for a second if this thing didn't blow up in Nifong's face, he wouldn't have found away to add hate crime charges.

I do believe there are real hate crimes, do I believe every hate crime reported was a hate crime, no. We all know, or should know how this game is played by elected prosecutors.

The vast majority of federal hate crime prosecutions are very justified. The laws were put into place to protect certain groups of people who were more likely to get attacked because of what they are. I know alot of white people have a hard time understanding that but that is the way it is. The laws actually work both ways. A good example of that is a story I read a few months back. A group of gay men beat the crap out of a straight man down in Florida. At the time the prosecutor was considering a federal charge. I haven't seen anything else about it so I don't know if he did or not.

[bbkeo]

Originally Posted by Mastertech

LMAO....that story is a JOKE!

“What part of ‘illegal’ do you not understand?” or so the mantra goes. Replace “illegal” with “Jews” in that sentence, and you can see just how dangerous this attitude really is. No, it’s not really “that simple.” Anyone who’s dealt with the Immigration and Nationalization “Service” knows very well how visas can expire, and how much of a hassle it is to renew.

People that are here illegally are CRIMINALS.....what part of that is so hard to understand.
These people are here illegally so they never had a visa to begin with... It's amazing the spin some people will put on some things.....enough to make you puke!

What kind of "spin" are you refering to? The piece is about FBI hate crime statistics. Did you actually read the whole thing or did you just see hispanic and go into a xenophobic rant?

[TheKing]

Originally Posted by bbkeo

A group of gay men beat the crap out of a straight man down in Florida. At the time the prosecutor was considering a federal charge. I haven't seen anything else about it so I don't know if he did or not.

I realize people commit hate crimes, but when laws are setup to recognize and only protect a certain group, or provide greater prosecution because a crime was committed to this group that is not equal protection under the law.

Like you said, you haven't heard much about it. You probably won't. Becuase the special interests groups that manipulate prosecutors to push these charges are not going to stand by and let a group of their own get prosecuted under these laws.

If these laws actually protected equally I would not have a probelm with them, but they don't. It's that simple.

[TheKing]

DECEMBER 5--A group of teenage girls menaced a male subway rider before attacking him as their train pulled into a Brooklyn station, a violent assault videotaped last month by a high school student who, of course, immediately uploaded the clip to YouTube. The 4:18 video, which you'll find below, was shot on the A train as it traveled in Bedford-Stuyvesant (subway ads and the train's stops indicate that the footage was shot late at night several weeks ago). The video was uploaded to YouTube on November 7 by Kadejra Holmes, a high school student and aspiring Harlem filmmaker. In a brief online chat, Holmes denied being part of the girl gang that attacked the male rider, who appeared to be about 30. Minutes after being asked by TSG about the train video, Holmes, 17, deleted the footage (and her entire page) from YouTube. As seen in the clip, the group of girls taunted and threatened the seated male rider as the train moved from the Ralph Avenue station to the Rockaway Avenue stop. As members of the group inched closer--and threatened to strike him--the man remained calm, asking the girls, "Why are you arguing? Please stop, stop." As the train pulled into Broadway Junction, a girl off-camera could be heard predicting, "They gonna hit him, I know it." Within moments, the man, who had stood up, was shoved down and pummeled by members of the gang. As the tape ends, the victim--who was also struck in the face with a plastic soda bottle during the assault--is continuing to be struck by two of the girls. When she posted the video, Holmes titled it, "jump up to get beat down," an apparent reference to "Punks Jump Up To Get Beat Down," an old single by Brand Nubian. The 1992 cut's video featured members of the rap group throttling various unfortunate opponents, two of whom get their bloody comeuppance in a subway car.


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Notice the article doesn't mention race? Why, because it's a black on white crime. If this was a group of white people on a black person, what would happen?

Where's the FBI on this case? Where's the public outrage, where's Jesse and Al?

[bbkeo]

It didn't mention race because it wasn't a crime motivated by race. It looked like a bunch of idiots got into an arguement. I get the point you are trying to make about hate crime laws being biased. I understand where you are comming from. The problem is though there are people out there who will commit a violent act based on someones religion or race or sexual orientation. These laws are necessary to try to provent that. You and I just see things from different sides.

[TheKing]

I do think you know where I'm comming from. I see this video differently. I do see it as a racial issue. I see it as a intimidation issue. Something I see way to often, and it's ignored to often.

I know if this was a group of white girls against a black person, this would be identified as a hate crime.

[BIGJ]

The king, you are full of it. I bet you are one of those who might say......."I don't want those niggers in my area."


What is your excuse King? "I like hispanics and Blacks, but they should stay in their area." Is that it. You are trying to start something which is a losing cause.

There is no proof, the king, that the girls who attack the man was racial. If a Black person attacks a white person on the basics that the victim is white then the black person should be sentenced for hate crime. If the black person attack white person for other reasons, then it isn't a hate crime.